The preface of the theory

Now we come to the preface of this theory. This shortly summarises the chat conversation I had with santosh in the previous entry. The beginning is the crucial part in the preface. We have to start somewhere and we start with infinity.

All the theories out there which explain they physical and the non-physical universe is nothing but intelligent speculation. Theories are built, verified against all the evidence that can be possibly gathered, and even if one evidence goes against the theory, the theory has to be rubbished.

For explaining our theory in simple terms we have to take hold of the concept called infinity. Inifinity is just a concept, something which can be defined as unending. An anology is about how I think the universe is. Say galaxies after galaxies after galaxies and it goes on and on and on. Now that is a vague way that we can call infinity. But that is a limitation of the mind. Mind struggles to visualise infinity and thats the limit of the mind, after which it cannot go.

To use Santosh’s terminology, Those who ask about infinity can be satisfied only with the statement ” infinity is the boundary of mind, we think see imagine and speculate within it”. Now mathematics does not seem to go to that area at all. As Santosh says, mathematics have done a wonderful thing they kept all analysis within negative and positive infinity, excluding the two.

Now we introduce something called phi. This is something beyond the mind, that can be only understood, we cannot imagine this. Now the problem is that we are entering a stage of philosophy, because science is nothing but natural philosophy has no options here other than to merge at level beyond the mind. The problem with phi is that, we cannot define it, as it will again bring it down to the level of the imaginable realm. So we keep the phi as something that is the beginning. Now as per this theory that is not true also, as beyond the phi level, lies the zhy or the field of pure awareness. Ok, we keep the things on hold here, as this sounds fiction rather than science. But this has to be the foundation of our theory as every other information is built upon this.

To put this in simple terms, we need to think of something like a point. The very concept of a point is very hard to comprehend. The problem begins when we think about a point, there can be no dimensions and smaller than the smallest. Now here again we are limited to explain a point. Now, when we dont know apoint, we cannot talk abt a line, and we cannot know anything about motion. Now for that again we need to come to something called dimension. We cannot even say how a particle moves from one point to another as in between it involves passing through infinite number of points, at infinite infinitesimals of time.

We only see the outer effect and cannot define even the concept of an adjacent point. There is no such point, even then we see particles traversing thru all ‘ adjacent’ points to reach another point. Once we come to the limitation that we have that Santosh introduces the concept of Zhy.

To avoid all images mind makes by relating to what it knows, to go and make standpoint out side the boundary of mind – in the intellectual extension – and to see the world as it could have been created or so from there, and to make a theory. Because, from that layer infinity and infinitesimal is visible. There we see that the very layer we are is the substance of creation. The ‘awareness energy’ is in itself as the substance of creation. It is non observable or detectable from physical unviverse, as it doesnot interact or is influenced by, or exchanges energy with, or take part in, its creation.

This Awareness energy – we can call it Zhy or call it Mandalini, is the foundation of the theory. Now this is the foundation of our theory, but the philosophical aspects goes beyond it, beyond the awareness energy, but we are not dealing with it, as for us it will suffice to start our theory with the foundation of it as Zhy.

Now to put the theory inbrief, the entire matrix of all fields, the electromagnetic, gravitational, nuclear field, all the fields and types of energies, the space – time continuum, everyhing, all can be concieved on this awareness energy, which we call Zhy. Here we dont have a particle-field concept, rather we have field-particle concept. Fields first, particles next.

Now this awareness energy we are talking from a layer beyond our mind, the layer of Zhy – an intellectual layer. “We dont have to see” these waves or the awareness energy, the defenition and what they are trivial, where as their essense is important. Now, the distribution of all these enegy is highly dynamic as fields and unstable as they are not quantised. The fields are highly unstable, sort of a gigantic matrix and takes time bound statistical resultant postions, as output stability configurations, which form particles/charges like electron. The fields orientation, stability contribution factors, intnsity of their flux, all make difference. In short we can call the fields instantaneous resultant of random unstable dynamic flux.

We can term this as full consciousness, the superimpostion of intellectual and mental imaginative layers. Now, this energy in quantised form is intellect,mind consciousness etc., and that is why we are living things. The phi as it is quantised stable enegy. So it is self intelligible, self thinkable, self imaginable. But the unstable form is the non quantised energy, which is only externally intelligible. That is the matrix from there comes the whole universe. As it is unstable and nonquantised, the universe has the inherent tendency to get back to the stable quantised state – the phi state. Now comes the relatively quantised self intelligible specks – the living things – we see the system of flux, non quantised around, observe, involve. All as self intelligible beings. But in short we and that, the living things and the matrix, all are the same continuum, the phi flux. As our enery is more quantised, we are move more towards stability, we are more phi. This is a possibility that a nonliviving thing can also become living – it is a continuum – no distinction.

All the forces in the universe and the basic building blocks of matter, all of these form part of the resultant matrix of phy system. One will be able to fit gravity, nuclear force, etc in that matrix, as well as the charge we call electron, quarks and other building blocks of this universe. With this all rectilinear motion, inertia, mechanics, all can be explaned by the concept of resultant matrix.

This is when I put a query about youngs double slit experiment. How do we explain the youngs double slit experiment? When a light is passed through a obstacle with 1 slit in it, the result states that light is particle, as there is no diffusion of the light, which would happen if the light is a wave. Now when the obstacle has 2 slits in it, the same light produces a interference pattern. Now scientists have managed to do this with a single photon, and they found the same result. When 1 slit is open, the light behaves as a particle, and when both the slits on the same plane is open, it created a interference pattern. Now does the single photon know if both the slits are open or one is open, and decide whether it has to behave as a particle or a wave?

Using the theory to explain this phenomenon santosh had this explanation. “I think it can be easily explained, but the exact solution and precision of argument will take time [for all phenomenon]. But this question can be coolly answered. it is the other way, a radiation is a feeble, just a few photons discharging., their rectilinear motion is at high speed. To attain the resultant, this is a very effective way on phi plane to attain stability. Radiation, this changes resultants at tremendous speeds. So the presence of any obstruction can easily affect the stability configuration equation tremendously as the particle is so small. Now as a radiation it is stable. It can retain the particle nature . An obstruction, the photon can still retain its particle nature but the successively two obstructions can weaken the intensity of the flux that it no longer remain intensified as a particle and disintegrates as a wave this is the most stable resultant stability equation.

I think I didnt put the question to him correctly, and explained that both the slits are on one plane, they are not successive obstacles, but one obstacle, with two slits or 1 slit as the experimenter might need.

if it can be undersstood that there is nothing like an electron or photon but just an instantaneous node of the resultant flux then we can understand this phenomenon. A photon as a small conglommeration of phi flux is easily disintegrable into successive instantaneous resultant, which makes it move into the most probable paths. Now comes a very startling announcement. It is diff to explain simply. I will try to make an analogy. And also dont think that disintegration means it breaks. It means only that it changes postion. Now u should know one thing, motion in our concept is exactly ceasing to exist at a point and being existant at another. This happens in continuum. This is motion. To be more precise, the instantaneous resultant node position coordiante changes with time. This creates the illusion of a particle. Now, nothing has to know anything. “Everything is a flux contiuum, everything affects – the position – instantaneous – of everything – as it all in continuum makes the attempt to approach stability. So now, when two openings are there, the resultant can be a path which has to be a vibration of points on one line and another alternately, that is. This solution is possible. A particle appearing on one line at a time and on another next, is no wonder if u imagine evry bit of motion is precisely that. Though here the two points are on two lines. But this solution is possible only on very small particles, as there it is more economical than reflection from a surface. In heavy mass reflection from a surface or passing thru a single slit as a unit is more stable solution and that is what we usually experience everynow and then.

Ok, only some of that made sense, but from the discussion the idea I got is as this. When a photon is released and it encounters an obstacle with 1 slit open, the stablest form of the photon (the type of flux that constitutes photon) is the apparent form of particle. Now when the same photon is released and encounters an obstacle with two slits in its path, the maximum stable form that the photon (or that type of flux), is a wave form. Now from this conclusion, If I am right, the stable most version of the photon type of flux is a particle form, and the next stable version for the same type of flux is wave. I need to get this confirmed straight from the horses mouth.

Now there has not been any equations or mathematics to work out or predict the differnt stablity modes of a type of flux. But I believe this can be developed if needed so by Sanotsh with the help of other mathematicians.

Now the question come about time. How do we explain time. The idea of time is explalined like this “What holds the matrix and the other fluxes from phi is time”. The non quantised state to quantised state transtition – thru time – where time is also a non quantised illusory concept in phi, within which is the space within which comes all the particles, enrgy field all. To be clear, the time is basically the extent of unstability in the phi flux. Time as such is nothing but this unstability which makes the whole nonquantised enrgy, space possible. Thus space is unstable energy and time is the unstability. So more the extent of instability, more the time concept or more slower the time is. One can stop time at quantised levels of phi, meaning time stops when stable phi is attained. Space too comes to and end at that state and then all that is too.

Now this entire phi is nothing but a reflection on zero by the higher plane, which cannot be defined or thought. Reflection means not real, beyond this nothing can be thought or any thing – perhaps – no nothing can be even drawn as a small line. We cannot even feel this phi level. Its beyond the intellectual layer, only if deeper layers beyong the intellectual boundfaries open up – when man develops to that, still there can be more layers beyond. The only word that fits it now is NETI (Na iti)

Now this brief preface to the thoery might have thrown open a few questions which can be looked into. Let the discussions begin.

The chat that began all

Anthony: sooo much disrupted…start….and soo much work now at office…and soo much burdens…ummm…it just begins and is like that
Praveen: ithentha katha
Praveen: samayamilla polum
Anthony: onnumillai da..soo much work pressure
Praveen: ha.. ee lokathu aarkum samayamillado
Praveen: ok no problem
Anthony: maths is an occean..i am
Praveen: do do it when you get time
Anthony: just under work pressure..
Praveen: yes yes.. you are a blue whale
Anthony: it is going to increase only..and
Praveen: so your horizons will expand only and
Anthony: as i am thinking of that proj…it is an endless….i am…nowhere
Praveen: two page paper is out of way?
Praveen: dey.. first get those books
Praveen: and then read through it
Praveen: whenever you get time
Praveen: say as you lie down to sleep etc
Praveen: and when you get time
Praveen: write your idea in a two pieces of A4 paper
Praveen: and send it to me
Praveen: either type it out
Praveen: on the computer and send it to me over email
Anthony: i have to..u know…the difficulty is that mind naturally sets in those thoughts..when it is fre..now preoccupied in maths
Anthony: so….i cannot put a time frame..it will happen
Praveen: ok
Praveen: I leave it to you
Praveen: when you get time you do it oki
Anthony: yes..may be by dec..to feb
Praveen:
Praveen: 2008
Praveen: ?
Praveen: or this year december?
Anthony: hahaha…2004
Praveen: oh thanks
Anthony: i meant that 2 page..haha
Praveen: ok, but have you bought the books?
Anthony: brief hstory already there..
Praveen: oh ok
Praveen: read through it fast
Praveen: its not a big book
Anthony: but..will buy rest when i feel i get time
Praveen: ok
Praveen: your project is like shcrodingers cat
Anthony: hahaha….
Praveen: till you get the paper you dont know…whats up
Anthony: mine is sooo naive
Praveen: so as per schrodingers equation, the universe splits into parallel universes
Praveen: till some one opens the box
Anthony: the only one thing i know is that i know nothing
Praveen: and that information is wrong also
Praveen: so that knowing is also pointless
Anthony: i dont know’ those concepts
Praveen: the only thing you know hence proved wrong
Praveen: so you dont even know you know nothing
Anthony: i cant digest it..i cant understand parellel universes
Praveen: I was reading youngs double slit experiment again
Praveen: at some site
Praveen: there it mentioned it
Anthony: i mean…i cant digest certain things…
Anthony: like…finite universe
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: ok
Praveen: parallel universe is one of the explanations for youngs double slit experiment
Anthony: may be ..i feel…universe is….!!!..whether it is finite or infinite is just a definition
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: what do you mean by that
Praveen: a concept of universe
Anthony: …i mean…
Praveen: that exist in some greater mind
Praveen: which is seperate from the concept itself
Anthony: mmmm…i think we belong to universe and see universe thru itself then the myth comes of finite and infinite
Praveen: but then we are like einstein said
Praveen: we have got a clock
Praveen: which we cannot open
Praveen: but from its tick tock sound and whatever observation we make
Praveen: we come with some theories
Praveen: of what it could be
Praveen: maybe our theories are like 4 blind persons defining elephant
Praveen: but then over a period of time
Praveen: we altest are able to figure out using our observations how it works
Praveen: and what sort of mechanism might be inside it
Anthony: but….imaginations…even perceptions are ‘created’ by mind..for example…think that u r a 4 th std boy..
Anthony: now say..as u r a 4 th standard boy..
Anthony: tell..what is there beyond the sky?
Praveen: if I think as a 4th standard boy
Praveen: there is nothing beyond the sky
Anthony: mmm…nothing means..if we go there..then?
Praveen: I didnt even think about it when I was in 4th standard
Praveen: nothing… sky after sky after sky
Praveen: at night black sky.. morning white sky
Anthony: mmm…so sky means..some space
Praveen: see.. as a 4th standard boy.. thats my limit
Praveen: I dont think I even reached that level
Praveen: I would have ignored the question straight away
Anthony: that is because..u saw sky..so mind extrapolated it..
Anthony: sky after sky..u relate to what u know
Praveen: ok
Anthony: now later u say space..vacuum..then vacuum after vacuum after vacuum..
Anthony: now here mind gets caught in a logical paradox
Anthony: the paradox of infinity
Praveen: hmm.. not really
Praveen: see as we grow up
Praveen: we learn some things
Praveen: like say gravity
Praveen: I learn the theory
Anthony: this infinity…it will fight on and on..because..infinity is a limitation..what it can never cross
Praveen: then I throw something up
Praveen: and then things come down
Praveen: and it follows principle of gravity
Anthony: they dont come down..at fundamental level..there it is just space
Praveen: then I see that scientists in moon did the experiment
Praveen: they put a feather and a iron ball down
Praveen: to see if they land on same time
Praveen: and they did
Anthony: see..al exp areon the known planes…here we are going to see the unseen
Praveen: yes
Praveen: but no one has seen an electron
Praveen: or say a nucleus
Praveen: only inference
Anthony: example…space’ is all that we know..but what is space…to talk it in terms of its fundamental parts is not known
Praveen: hmm.. I am somewhat with you
Anthony: electron..etc..even now we dont know..we only got some of their effects..channalise them..and do things..
Praveen: but then again, we infer that there is space
Praveen: but we are finding out
Anthony: and at basics..even an electron..no body knows any thing
Praveen: it was like element
Praveen: we didnt know.. but then we learnt
Praveen: but when we go deeper
Praveen: we need time to comprehend
Anthony: see..we are finding out only some properties…when some thing interacts with something
Praveen: to understand what could be it
Praveen: yes.. I agree
Anthony: there is no’ understanding’ only intelligent speculations
Praveen: absolutely true
Anthony: soo….there..it may ‘ appear’ to be some thing or other…if we ‘ imagine ‘ it out..and mind always relates to what it sees..that forced some to say circular orbit..elliptical orbital..these we observe…
Anthony: then logically cam ethe quantum
Anthony: then probabilistic estimation..
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: those who ask abt infinity can be satisfies only with a statement..’ infinity is the boundary of mind’ we think see imagine and speculate within it’
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: and when we go out of it…we denote it phi
Praveen: phi is already taken.. put mandalini
Anthony: hahaha….apna beta ka naam kyon badal na hai..ki padosi wohi naam rakh liya karke
Praveen: taaki.. apne bacche ko padosi ke bacche ki report card na mile
Praveen: use khud ka identity ho.. aur log confuse na hoye
Praveen:
Anthony: hahaha….bacha reprt card keliye nahin..report card bacha keliye hai
Praveen: haan.. lekin woh kal baap ko bolega… abe doosra naam nahi mila kya?
Praveen: hmm anyways.. coming back to this
Anthony: hahaha….aaa…bedhenge…lekin…mathematics have done a wonderful thing they kept all analysis within negative and positive infinity..excludintg the two
Anthony: as they are the boundaries of mind
Praveen: hmm.. so mand-phi-lini is something which denotes the beyond
Anthony: but we we logically define a parameter phi(as of now)…beyond mind..a very big question wil come
Anthony: as it is beyond mind how can we…from within the mind…’denote or define’ .’it’??
Anthony: it is a serious question
Praveen: see that too is a concept
Praveen: intellectual circus
Anthony: the moment i define it it will become inside the boundary..this is a serious flaw…here..’ i would use the concept of..’ a pointer’
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: Adi sanckharacharya was GREAT..he really brilliantly solved this concept….he brought abt “neti neti..” method to do this..its depth we still dont understand
Anthony: but then we will have to argue that human intelligence can penetrate into the umbra and penumbra regions outside the boundary of mind…that is…human intellect can still go beyond space and time..then only our concept of phi is realistic
Anthony: where..the mind stops..intellect has still a longer way…next stage…it too should have a boundary..till there we can have phi’s and zhy’s
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: zhy?
Praveen: another mathematical name?
Praveen: hmm… ok then
Anthony: wo daal diya
Praveen: zhy is available
Praveen:
Praveen: ok you carry on
Anthony: but..u know..it is no easy joke…may bge a work for retirement would have been all right..haha
Praveen: am I right in assuming that this is going to be the foundation of your thoery
Anthony: aaa…preface
Praveen: you start with a term zhy and then come to phi
Praveen: and then build blocks upon block.. till you reach something like gravity, inertia
Praveen: and maybe entropy
Anthony: ummm…seee….the puzzle ..hue and cry that u hear..
Anthony: is abt beginning of time universe..etc..and the fundamental block of matter..but..
Anthony: there is a more fundamental question
Praveen: and that is
Anthony: the very concept of a point.it is hard very hard to understand what is a point
Anthony: can u think with out dimension…point has no dimension..it is smaller than smaller than…..there….it goes on like infinity
Praveen: no.. so it lies in the region of zhy
Praveen: or in the region of phy
Anthony: and when we dont know apoint…we cannot talk abt a line..we dont know motion
Praveen: for mathematical simplicity
Praveen: dont you think you are bulding a house roof down.. instead of basement up
Praveen: ?
Anthony: mmm..things are happeing at levels..the ulterier level is only observable to man kind
Anthony: …i think starting with a point is the thing
Anthony: more fundamental than this is the concept of dimension
Anthony: who can say what is it
Praveen: now, these as you say, lie beyond the capabilities of the mind
Praveen: now how are you going to explain gravity using this
Praveen: or are you slowly coming to that point
Anthony: we cannot even say how a particle moves from one point to another..in between ..it involves…passing through infinite number of points..at infinite infinitesimals of time…
Anthony: we only see the outer effect
Anthony: we cannot define even the concept of an adjacent point..there is no such point..even then we see particles traversing thru all ‘ adjacent’ points to reach another point
Praveen: but a point cannot be imagined without space around it
Praveen: so there is no way we can imagine it
Anthony: but here comes..what we would propose..hoo..with a bit of trembling…hesitation..
Praveen: ok go on
Anthony: to avoid all images mind makes by relating to what it knows…to go and make standpoint out side the boundary of mind…in the intellectual extension..and to see the world as it could have been created or so..from there…and to make a theory
Anthony: because..from that layer..infinity and infinitesimal is visible
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: there we see that the very layer we are is the substance of creation.the ‘awareness energy’ is in itself the substance of creation
Anthony: it is non observable or detectable from physical unviverse..as it doesnot interact or is influenced by…or exchanges energy with..or take part in…its creation
Praveen: so zhy… is the awareness energy…
Praveen: which creates phy..
Anthony: symbol is upto u….now..
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: ok
Anthony: now…in brief..the entire matrix of all fields…the electromagnetc….gravitational..all..
Praveen: ok
Anthony: , the space, time continuum..all can be concieved..on this awareness energy……now here…so..(we reverse the particle-field concept…field first then particle
Praveen: now how do you fit those with these
Praveen: so the “awareness energy” in the process of creation is what is we know as the world
Praveen: or all that the mind can conceive
Anthony: …see as we speak from intellectual layer…’ we dont have to see’ these waves
Anthony: it is trivial what they are….but their essence is important
Praveen: hmm.. ok.. so its the field which is foundation for the world as we know it
Anthony: now…the distribution of all these enegy is highly dynamic as fields..and unstable as they are not quantised
Praveen: but what gives the differenciation.. between two fields
Praveen: say an electron and say a photon
Anthony: mmm…the fields..as they are highly unstable…thegigantic matrix…takes time bound statistical resultant postions..as output stability configurations..which form particles like electron
Anthony: now…the orientations…stability contribution factors..intensity of their flux..al make diff
Praveen: but what causes them to behave like that
Praveen: changes in flux.. orientation and their stability
Anthony: instantaneous resultant of random unstable dynamic flux
Praveen: where and why does does this “awareness energy” – zhy…changes to phy.. with properties, flux etc
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: one sec..some one online
Praveen: ok.. maybe I should have done engineering
Praveen: ok
Praveen: I am waiting
Anthony: podaa….aaa para
Praveen: eh>
Praveen: ?
Praveen: wrong window?
Anthony: no….u said abt engg
Praveen: oh yes
Praveen: yes.. true
Praveen: if I was taken to 10 pass again
Praveen: with the current level of mind
Anthony: sooo…let us put the awareness..as phi….now in phi
Praveen: I would have done science
Praveen: ok
Praveen: back on track
Anthony: we can put it as full consciousness..the superimpostion of intellectual and mental imaginative layers
Praveen: hmm ok
Anthony: now…this energy in quantised form is intellect,mind consciousness..atc and that is why we are living things
Praveen: that is quite a leap
Praveen: now as far as I was on the theory.. we are irrelevant to this universe
Praveen: the shceme is grander .. and we are just an incidental pattern on it
Praveen: a trivial pattern.. but not indispensible pattern
Anthony: haha…see..the distinction of living and non living is primary there too..for example..
Anthony: the phi as it is quantised stable enegy..so it is self intelligible..self thinkable..self imaginable..but
Anthony: the unstable form is the non quantised energy..which is only externally intelligible..that is the matrix
Praveen: hmm.. slightly getting the drift of it
Anthony: from there comes the whole universe..as it is unstable and nonquantised…the universe has the inherent tendency to get back to the stable quantised state..the phi state
Praveen: hmm..
Anthony: now comes the relatively quantised self intelligible specks..the living things..we see the system of flux..non quantised around….observe…involve..all as self intelligible beings
Praveen: ok.. if I am getting the drift.. the inherent tendencies of all teh flux is to get mach to the stable state
Praveen: from unstable
Anthony: but in short we and that..all are same..continuum…phi flux
Anthony: mmm
Praveen: all living beings are relatively stable.. ie relatively comapared to the other unstable matrix forces
Anthony: mm
Praveen: but some beings who become absolutely stable.. say buddha .. krishna… put maps in place for us to get to that state/
Anthony: as our enery is more quantised..we are more phi..a nonliviving thing can also become living..it is a continuum..no distinction
Praveen: so the whole universe is on a route to get back to that state
Praveen: ok.. carry on
Anthony: ithu save cheytho..so i can write less later
Praveen:
Praveen: I will save this indeed.. but you will have to write it anyway
Praveen: now, coming to the matrix of the flux
Praveen: you will be able to fit gravity, nuclear force, etc in that matrix
Anthony: there all rectilinear motion inertia..mechanics..all can be explaned by the concept of resultant
Praveen: the effect each column of the matrix has on others
Praveen: the collective action and reaction?
Anthony: i meant mechanics..umm..gravity too…..rest..electonics..etc..i dont know at all..there..now that is my limitation
Praveen: time to come out of it
Anthony: no daa…absolutely impossible to learn electronics..no daa
Praveen: not to learn electronics
Praveen: who said you have to learn everything
Praveen: see.. to learn swimming is not to cross english channel by swimming
Praveen: we just get the principles.. and then understand that if someone is determined enough, he can swim accross english channel
Praveen: so just understanding off all the different matrix
Praveen: like a periodic table
Anthony: see..the essence…as i told u is the thing…i may barely add a page more…now
Praveen: where we can say.. ok..this flux, or this sort of energy which we call gravity, when acting with this matrix element called electron behaves like this
Praveen: so this matrix is supposed to have all that energy..
Anthony: hey what can be the time here? i dint have watch now
Anthony: mmm
Praveen: 3.30 evening
Praveen: afternoon
Anthony: mmm
Praveen: there
Praveen: rather 3.35
Praveen: pm
Anthony: ok..no prob
Praveen: but then how do explain the electron using that
Praveen: how do you explain gravity using that matrix
Praveen: how do you predit how an electron will behave
Anthony: that is simple’
Praveen: dont tell me you ahve to assume the electron is all over the world.
Anthony: no prediction..we can say it is possible..to every thing that happens..haha
Praveen: and when we need, it just appears from the phi
Anthony: it is like this…
Praveen: but then a NaCl is a grain of salt
Praveen: it doesnt appear or disappear
Praveen: just like that
Anthony: as a node appears as a particle..which just the phi flux..making a resultant node..
Praveen: if electron behaves like that, what is it that makes atom like it is
Praveen: now tell me the resultant interaction of different elements of flux is causing that
Praveen: different matrix elements
Praveen: making it to appear like that
Anthony: now…this causes a state..where the flux lines directed toward it..which formed it..intensified it…tried..to attain more stability by drawing flux lines nearer to it..which…makes many nodes shift to points nearer
Praveen: hmm..
Praveen: ok
Praveen: how do one explain youngs theory
Praveen: double slip experiment rather
Anthony: ninte ammaayiyamma..i dont remember optics..i know mechanics
Praveen: ok the experiment is like this
Anthony: venda daa
Praveen: say.. you send photons through a slit
Anthony: athenthenkilumaakatte
Praveen: no this is serious
Praveen: see.. what young did was
Anthony: ok
Praveen: he passed light through one slit
Praveen: which made a line on the screen beyond the slit
Praveen: ok..
Praveen: now he passed the same light through two slits
Praveen: now the screen showed a diffraction.. bands of white and dark lights.. due to ineterference
Praveen: so, depending upon whether the slit is open or closed, the light is behaving like a particle or a wave
Anthony: i will have to study it..if i have to say..what why etc
Praveen: now.. scientists did another experiment
Praveen: they did the double slit experiment with only 1 photon
Praveen: so they made sure that they sent only 1 photon thourh the slit
Praveen: when only one slit was open, the screen registered as a particle
Praveen: but when both the slits were open, and only one photon was sent, it produced a pattern on the screen
Praveen: which means that when only one slit was open, the photon behaved as a particle
Praveen: and when both slits were open, the photon behaved as a wave.
Praveen: now the question is … did the photon “know” if both the slits were open or only one was open?
Anthony: i think…it can be easily explained..but the exact solution and precision..of argument will take time..for all phenomenon]
Anthony: ohhh..that question can be coolly answered
Praveen: hmm?
Anthony: it is the other way….a radiation is a feeble…just a few photons…discharging..their rectilinear motion is at high speed..to attain the resultant..this is a very effective way on phi plane to attain stability…radiation..this changes resultants..at tremendous speeds..so
Praveen: eh?
Anthony: the presence of any obstruction can easily affect the stability configuration equation tremendously as the particle is soo small…now…
Anthony: as…a radiation..it is stable…can retain the particle nature…an obstruction..can still retain its particle nature..but the successively two obstructions can weaken the intensity of the flux..that it no longer remain intensified as a particle..and disintegrates as a wave…this is the most stable resultant stability eqation
Praveen: I think you got the experiment wrong
Praveen: the slits are on a same plane
Anthony: mmmmmm
Praveen: so its photon emission, slide , sceen
Praveen: now in the slide there are two slits
Anthony: now that is different..even then it is coolly explainable
Praveen: say one on the left and one on the right
Praveen: and when one of them is closed, screen registers photon
Anthony: ok..so then it is like this
Praveen: when both are open, voila… you get a pattern
Praveen: so, does a photon goes through 1st slit and a ghost photon through second slit?
Anthony: if it can be undersstood that there is nothing like an electron but just an instantaneous node of the resultant flux..then…
Praveen: ok your explanation?
Praveen: it becomes aware that the second slit is open or closed
Praveen: ?
Anthony: a photon as a small..conglommeration of phi flux..is easily disintegrable into successive instantaneous resultants..which makes it move into the most probable paths..now comes a very startling announcement..
Anthony: it is diff to speak out..i will try..to make an analogy
Praveen: ok
Anthony: and..aslo dont think..disintegration means it breaks..it means only that it changes postion..now u should know one thing..motion in our concept..is..exactly ceasing to exist at a point..and being existant at another.this happens in continuum..this is motion..
Anthony: more precicely..the instantaneous resultant node potion coordiante changes with time.this creates the illusion of a particle
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: now..nothing ahs to know anything…”everything is a flux contiuum..everything affects…the position..instantaneous..of everything…as it all in continuum..makes the attempt to stability..so now..when two openings are there..
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: the resultant can be a path which has to be a vibration of points on one line and another alternately…that is..
Anthony: this solution is possible..a particle appearing on one line at a time..and on another next…is no wonder if u imagine evry bit of motion is precisely that…though here the two points are on two lines
Anthony: but ths solution is possible only on very small particles..as there it is more economical than reflection from a surface
Anthony: in heavy mass reflection from a surface..or passing thru a single slit as a unit is more stable solution and athat is what we usually experience everynow and then
Praveen: hmm.. so if i understand it
Praveen: since photon is a verymuch small flux of energy
Praveen: a column in our matrix
Praveen: when it is fired through the slits/slit as the case may be
Anthony: precisely..there is nothing like matter or charge or enery..or space or time..all are instantaneous resultants of a single flux
Praveen: it tries to reach a stability
Anthony: umm
Praveen: the stable version of that particular type of flux is photon
Praveen: when both the slits are open, the stablest version it can get is through the result of interference
Anthony: mmm
Praveen: and when one of the slit is only open the the even more stable version of the flux hits the screen
Anthony: ..and..there is nothing like…that particular type of’ flux..only the one flux..rest right
Praveen: well phton is a type of flux.., which we have to put in a column in our matrix..
Anthony: now the point is..none knows /can write the stability equation..yet all are due to that eqn
Anthony: mmm….photon is one intensity of that flux
Praveen: so a flux which has a particular type of characteristics and property.. though inherently the smame underlying flux
Praveen: we call it photon for convenience
Anthony: mm
Praveen: but it strives for stability
Anthony: mm
Praveen: at the present stage and in the present experiment
Praveen: the stability it strives for is the relative stability , that of a photon
Anthony: this is how it should all appear from the intellectual plane beyond mind..nothing is diff..all living non living matter energy space time..all one flux
Praveen: If I am making sense
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: and this we can put in equations
Praveen: and explain all the resultant phenomenenon
Praveen: phenomenon
Anthony: stability is the entire matrix..trying for stability….it keeps the resultant nodes..photons…at instantaneous positions
Anthony: none knows these equations
Anthony: that mathematics is umknown perhaps
Praveen: but.. these are intermediate levels of stability, as far as that type of flux is concrenced.. I mean, that particular resultant node
Praveen: but you will be able to create them
Anthony: mmm..yes..but time goes..and thus nothing is permanantly stable
Anthony: pha
Praveen: but these intermediate levels of stability, we can classify as forces, and other such things which falls into the matrix
Anthony: till the matrix becomes stable
Praveen: and these are not defenitive, as these are interchangeable
Praveen: due to the underlying sameness of flux
Anthony: all are unstable..all as a matrix tries to run tnto its phi state..
Anthony: yes
Praveen: but some thing preventing them to get to that state
Anthony: nothing really exists..they appear and go on the flux
Praveen: dont tell me you will call it “avidya”
Anthony: i dont call anything as i dont know anything..
Praveen: something hold them from attaining that “phi” state.. or
Praveen: ok.. another question.. where does time come in this matrix?
Anthony: mmm…the time
Praveen:
Praveen: same time
Anthony: what holds them from phi is time
Praveen: so as per this idea… what is time
Praveen: how do you explain this phenomena
Anthony: the non quantised state..to quantised state…transtition…thru time..where time is also..a non quantised illusory concept in phi..within which is the space within which comes all the particles..enrgy field all
Anthony: to be clear..the time is basically the extent of unstability in the phi flux
Praveen: hm
Anthony: …time as such is nothing but this unstability..which..makes the whole nonquantised enrgy..space possible…thus space is unstable energy..and time is the unstability
Praveen: so more the extent of instability.. more the time concept.. or more slower the time
Anthony: yes
Anthony: u can stop time at quantised levels of phi
Praveen: meaning time stops when you attain stable phi
Anthony: yes
Praveen: or stable flux.
Anthony: space too
Anthony: and then all that is..
Praveen: is zhy
Praveen: or all that is is
Praveen: but then what is the cause
Praveen: is bigbang the cause for origin of this world
Anthony: now this entire phi..is nothing but a reflection..on zero by the higher plane..which cannot be defined or thought..or…..
Praveen: hmm..
Anthony: see…we talked origin of ..the imaginable basics..like photon enrgy space time….this is all from the intellectual layer..later..the bodies..forming world all doe to stability eqn is nothing but trivial details from this layer..for that we can come down to the mental plane and follow big bandg etc…all will tally
Praveen: hmm..
Anthony: reflection..means..not real..beyong this nothing can be …thought or..any thing..perhaps…no nothing can be even drawn as a small line..
Praveen: we enter a realm where no matter how much we try, we wont be able to explain
Praveen: only feel it
Praveen: or imaine that we feel it
Praveen: imagine
Anthony: not even feel..beyond the intellectual layer..only if deeper layers beyong the intellectual boundfaries open up..when nman develops to that…still there can be more layers..beyond……..its…NETI
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: wonderful
Praveen: its my turn to say “wonderful”
Anthony: hmmmmm..ithaadaaa karthaavinte veeracharitham
Praveen: what was this idea doing inside your skull
Anthony: AadiSankaraacharya’s GREATNESS
Praveen: it should have been out there
Praveen: out to the world
Anthony: now liberated to you….i have given you 7 pages haha
Anthony: podaa..athey it will be a fiction
Praveen: no not yet
Praveen: its just the beginning
Anthony: aaa…that only i know
Praveen: vikramadityan is yet to capture the vethalam completely
Anthony: save it
Praveen: yes, I am
Praveen: you vikramaadityan
Praveen: me vethaalam
Praveen: asking questions
Anthony: so…but this vikranmaaditya has other jobs..too..the old one was fully in that one job
Praveen: vethalam also is chatting from office
Anthony: hahah..not that
Anthony: the old vikram..had no other job…we have life too much cannot devote months
Praveen:
Anthony: and i know..this is my limit
Praveen: all veham
Praveen: we can devote
Anthony: i dont know anything more
Praveen: it takes planning
Praveen: and the direction that you decide to take
Anthony: i bevieve now u see..what i am ..just fiction…
Praveen: then we all have to be
Praveen: lets make it a great fiction
Praveen:
Anthony: i dont know any contemporary dev in thisa field..it takes..loooong..so
Anthony: i wish..it can be given to univ who have time to do all
Praveen: let me see
Praveen: I will discuss this with praveen
Praveen: and also try see if some research people will be intersted
Praveen: only if they give due credit to you..
Praveen:
Anthony: and u know the phi flux…as it is intelligible..can itself…create in it energy leles..minds..that bring…those intellectual pulses…into the common stream of human logics..haha
Praveen: um?
Anthony: i mean….u got it?
Praveen: what was the last line?
Praveen: that, a stoopid person like me can also understand this theory
Praveen: ?
Praveen:
Anthony: i meant the phi flux can create those quantised energy levels..means…living beings or men…who can bring those intellectual pulses to the common human logical system means…if a man has to bring these ideas to word or discover abt the world..it is the phi plane that self intelligently creates tose men
Praveen: hmm
Praveen: so finding oneself using oneself’s creations
Praveen: I creating a mini-robot to study myself
Anthony: so…the system knows whether to generate men to know itself..haha
Anthony: umm
Praveen:
Praveen: you are great!
Anthony: so..one will be there..
Anthony: poda
Anthony: i am a good fiction writer haaha
Praveen: but then the phi flux that is channeling is even greater
Praveen: yes, a ficitional character writing fiction
Praveen: what a fiction
Anthony: hahaha..it is a reflection of the zhi beyond layers and layers..and…thaaaaat
Praveen: which is neti
Praveen:
Anthony: mmm
Praveen: you great man
Anthony: hahahaha
Praveen: see, and you keep telling others, that they are great
Anthony: appo….ithaadaa. abhinava vedanta saara sangraham
Anthony: edaaa adhaa satyam..i am not
Praveen: jai santosh neelakantha shaasthri baba
Anthony: hahahahaha
Praveen: hail neelakantha sharma
Anthony: they solve maths probs better than me
Anthony: daa..ninakku vattu sarikkum undo nna samsayam
Praveen: but they still remain fluxes
Praveen: whether they solve it faster or not
Praveen: the more time they take to solve it, the more stability they are striving for
Anthony: so i gave 7 pages
Anthony: haha
Praveen: just introduction
Anthony: aaa…that is where i am
Anthony: now plsss understand the truth..dont overestimate..this is where i am
Praveen: hmm
Anthony: ho sakta hai.b4 a big scientist..all may sound wild also
Praveen: thats fine
Praveen: but this makes sense
Praveen: for me atleast
Praveen: till I come up with more questions
Anthony: hahaha…that is it
Anthony: so…i am happy that..u will not now have fabulous imaginations abt me..u know where i am
Praveen: and when I come up with more questions,, I will haunt you like true vethalam
Praveen: yes… very high
Anthony: that is ok
Anthony: hoooo
Praveen: I am convincedn ow
Praveen:
Praveen: have you heard the eveagelist’s joke
Anthony: velukkan thechathu pinnem..paranjittu karyamilla
Praveen: this evangelist was preaching to an archealogist
Praveen: how god created this world in 6 days and 7th day he rested
Anthony: i know that
Praveen: so the archealogist argued back.. saying that as per bible the world was created only a few thousands years ago
Praveen: how do you explain the millions of years old dinosaur fossils
Anthony: hahaha..i know this story many times from childhood
Praveen: the evangelist replied.. that god planted them to see if the people believed the fossils or him
Praveen:
Praveen: like that only
Praveen: I believe in your greatness
Praveen: whatever you say
Praveen:
Anthony: ummm….irrational
Praveen: but cannot be debated out
Anthony: anyway this is raw things..as i have given you..univ guys may process it..in technical language
Praveen: hmm.. lets see how far we can get this
Anthony: you can donate it as vidyadaan to the deserving guys i think
Praveen: oki.. let me see
Praveen: if this can be written as a paper
Anthony: hmmmm..that is possible..just as a paper..and then the world will do the rest
Praveen: and be sent to some leading organisations
Praveen: or say.. scientists
Praveen: and lets try
Anthony: mmm…
Praveen: ok
Anthony: annarakkannanum thannaalaayathu…haha
Praveen: yes yes
Praveen: ok da
Praveen: now I think I should get back to work
Praveen:
Praveen: nearly 3 hrs chatting…
Praveen:
Anthony: yes..bye..this squrrel back to its
Anthony: room
Anthony: ohhhh..3 hrs?
Praveen: but do read the brief history of time
Praveen: nearly
Anthony: mmm
Anthony: bye..save it and bye
Praveen: and see this has just started
Praveen: ok da
Praveen: take care
Praveen: and one more thing
Praveen: email me your address
Anthony: mmmm
Praveen: I will subscribe you for “new scientist”
Anthony: hahahahaha…ok
Praveen: which contains all the latest happenings in the scientific world
Anthony: mm
Praveen: seriously email me
Praveen: the full address
Anthony: pin code ..i will get
Praveen: if possible today, or else tomorrow itself
Anthony: ..mmm….bye..(tomorrow)
Anthony: right
Anthony:
Praveen: ok
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